Once Robert became king, a kind of damnatio memoriae was enforced. Robert referred to the Targaryens as dragonspawns, neglecting the fact that the Baratheons not only are related to theTargaryens, but his own grandmother was a Targaryen. Rhaegar, during his final conversation with Jaime, referred to Robert, as cousin. I guess that it was a case where might is right. Their duel must have been an extraordinary event, and neither should be underestimated. While Rhaegar was loved by nobles and smallfolk, we should not understimate Robert's ability to turn his enemies to friends during the war. Maekar was by far less popular and definately less liked than his oldre vrother, who in the end, did stood up for the hedge knight. My guess is that in cases like that, an important factor is the popularity of the kinslayer. Later Maekar realised that he would be regarded as a kinslayer.
#Why wasn t rob in grown ups 2 trial
Was he supposed to let Rhaegar to kill him?īaelor Breakspear died shortly after the trial of 7, during which he confronted his brother Maekar.
I thought that doesn't apply during a fight.
I still think the Karstarks emphasising their Starkiness is one of the little hints that Robb named Harrion Karstark in his will, even though the rest of the world (including, I know, the app) has agreed it was Jon. I guess if you define kinship as membership of the same House rather than blood relation it makes them all kin. A few minor Houses remember when they were kings, the Manderleys have their promise, and for the Karstarks it is that they are Starks. Lots of Houses have some founding myth upon with they form their identity and which makes them special. Though people are more likely to make the accusation of taboo breaking when they are angry and hate someone, as seen with both your examples. We're familiarising ourselves with the finer points of bad behavior in this thread.The Blackwood example may not be related to kinslaying, just plain old betrayal of loyalty.
#Why wasn t rob in grown ups 2 tv
What was Davos's quote about Stannis from the TV series? "Your father lacks an appreciation for the finer points of bad behavior." Killing people outside of combat, executions, and mercy is going to be bad behavior. The Hooded Man in Winterfell calls Theon a kinslayer.Cregan Karstark to Jon Snow while imprisoned in an ice cell.Alys Karstark to Jon Snow in requesting his aid against her uncles.We're familiarising ourselves with the finer points of bad behavior in this thread. But it does appear that the boundaries of kinslaying are somewhat negotiable. I don't mean to suggest that they would be widely recognized either. The Hooded Man in Winterfell calls Theon a kinslayer.Īll of these would also be distant forms of kinslaying. Tytos Blackwood mentions to Jaime Lannister that Walder Frey's second wife was a Blackwood, but that didn't stop the Freys from murdering Lucas Blackwood at the Red Wedding.And there are also other non-Karstark examples where kinslaying is alleged: Kind of like naming your sons after your liege lord. With the Karstarks, claiming kinship to the Starks is good politics. There's going to be a difference between claiming kinship/kinslaying and its wider recognition. Lord Karstark before being beheaded Robb Stark.Īlys Karstark to Jon Snow in requesting his aid against her uncles.Ĭregan Karstark to Jon Snow while imprisoned in an ice cell.Including other books, there are actually quite a few instances of the Karstarks calling the Starks their kin: I've been rereading some of A Dance with Dragons since this topic came up. Nedslaying is worse than kinslaying though.
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